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    Note on s0s_0 nonmeasurable unions

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    In this note we consider an arbitrary families of sets of s0s_0 ideal introduced by Marczewski-Szpilrajn. We show that in any uncountable Polish space XX and under some combinatorial and set theoretical assumptions (cov(s_0)=\c for example), that for any family \ca\subseteq s_0 with \bigcup\ca =X, we can find a some subfamily \ca'\subseteq\ca such that the union \bigcup\ca' is not ss-measurable. We have shown a consistency of the cov(s_0)=\omega_1<\c and existence a partition of the size ω1\omega_1 \ca\in [s_0]^{\omega} of the real line \bbr, such that there exists a subfamily \ca'\subseteq\ca for which \bigcup\ca' is ss-nonmeasurable. We also showed that it is relatively consistent with ZFC theory that \omega_1<\c and existence of m.a.d. family \ca such that \bigcup\ca is ss-nonmeasurable in Cantor space 2ω2^\omega or Baire space ωω\omega^\omega. The consistency of a<cov(s0)a<cov(s_0) and cov(s0)<acov(s_0)<a is proved also.Comment: 12 page

    Complete nonmeasurability in regular families

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    We show that for a σ\sigma -ideal \ci with a Borel base of subsets of an uncountable Polish space, if \ca is (in several senses) a "regular" family of subsets from \ci then there is a subfamily of \ca whose union is completely nonmeasurable i.e. its intersection with every Borel set not in \ci does not belong to the smallest σ\sigma -algebra containing all Borel sets and \ci. Our results generalize results from \cite{fourpoles} and \cite{fivepoles}.Comment: 7 page

    Completely nonmeasurable unions

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    Assume that there is no quasi-measurable cardinal smaller than 2ω2^\omega. (κ\kappa is quasi measurable if there exists κ\kappa -additive ideal \ci of subsets of κ\kappa such that the Boolean algebra P(\kappa)/\ci satisfies c.c.c.) We show that for a c.c.c. σ\sigma -ideal I with a Borel base of subsets of an uncountable Polish space, if A\cal A is a point-finite family of subsets from I then there is an uncountable collection of pairwise disjoint subfamilies of A\cal A whose union is completely nonmeasurable i.e. its intersection with every non-small Borel set does not belong to the σ\sigma -field generated by Borel sets and the ideal I. This result is a generalization of Four Poles Theorem.Comment: 6 page
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